Comments on: Creating a Sustainable Vegetable Grain Food Production System http://sustainablesmallholding.org Permaculture, and Sustainable practices on a Lincolnshire Smallholding Sun, 05 Feb 2017 15:17:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.3 By: Deano http://sustainablesmallholding.org/diploma/project-7/project-8/#comment-36 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:53:09 +0000 http://deanom.wordpress.com/?page_id=1823#comment-36 Hi Anni
I’m still at the nuts and bolts stage. Will it work? What are the yields?etc. I intend to start at with loooking at calories first, will it provide enough energy, and then dig deeper into it’s overall nutritional value. It would be really useful to have people who know a bit about that contributing in some way.
I’m hoping to enlist a few more experimenters at the Convergence next weekend, which would speed things up a bit.
The tables in jeavons’ book are a good start point for yields, as they are based on regular sized beds (100 sq ft). Whilst the yields quoted there may be higher than we can achieve here, they give a start point to work from.
Enjoy the rest of the post when you read it
Deano

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By: annisveggies http://sustainablesmallholding.org/diploma/project-7/project-8/#comment-35 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:35:05 +0000 http://deanom.wordpress.com/?page_id=1823#comment-35 Hi Deano

This is really fascinating stuff. I will come back and read it properly another day as tis late now and I have just looked at the intro / background.

I am very nearly obsessed with how to feed oneself in practical terms. I know I can’t do that in my small garden, but I am trying to consider how to include different food groups and nutritional needs. My musings are not in any way as systematic as yours, but they are continuously rumbling around in my head.

Ten years or so ago I trained in nutritional therapy and it is my nutritional knowledge that is saying all the time that we cannot rely on just growing the types of foods normally grown in back gardens and allotments. We need proteins, fats / oils and also need bulk sources of sufficient carbohydrate. Most fruits and veggies (whether traditional annuals or unusual perennials) are needed in the diet for minerals, vitamins, phytonutrients and fibre. All absolutely essential but far from the whole story. So my musings are taking me towards grains (carbohydrates and some proteins), mushrooms (lots of protein and many interesting medicinally active compounds), seeds (for fats / essential fatty acids) and fish. Although some of these are not practical for me to investigate at present I am trying to ascertain in general terms the relative proportions of growing space required for crops for particular functions in order to raise them in roughly the proportions required in the diet.

Keep up the good work!

Anni

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By: Deano http://sustainablesmallholding.org/diploma/project-7/project-8/#comment-34 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:10:20 +0000 http://deanom.wordpress.com/?page_id=1823#comment-34 Hi Dave
Thanks for the comment. Good Luck with the Bonfils stuff. it’s fascinating to do.
We don’t eat Jeruslaem Artichokes, so I don’t use them in the garden any more. Agree with your thoughts though.
Deano

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By: Dave B http://sustainablesmallholding.org/diploma/project-7/project-8/#comment-33 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 06:43:08 +0000 http://deanom.wordpress.com/?page_id=1823#comment-33 Fantastic work. I am looking at doing some bonfills stuff, mostly with wheat, so this is very interesting. One thing I noticed is you dont seem to have mentioned jerusalem artichokes (in my brief read) , one of the finest green manures/food/ fodder crops around.

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